others tend to see us, thanks to a near by dictionary
on any bookshelf in the county
Read for yourself.
out of the books themselves, recent ones
American Heritage ® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000
means , if you are not one of those, you don't have a religion according
, note the date of this dictionary,and it is not only we pagans who are excluded here
but a whole multitude of other faiths as well. It defines us as, Not X ,therefore we and our Gods must be false,
making a moral judgment , rather than a definition.
is not a definition of a word, its a judgment on our faith.
While a great many folk may indeed feel this way, this is not a non biased
definition of the word.
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
one is a little more honest at least in that it defines pagan as
anyone who is not your religion'
which is how many look at it, but makes no judgment good or bad.
It's still incorrect however, by this definition a Christian, Jew or follower of Islam
would be a Pagan from my side of the fence, As they are not followers of my faith !
Wouldn't that, just put a cat among the pigeons to even attempt to say it.
Not to mention it completely contradicts itself in the process,
as it doesn't take into consideration how that definition would be
in reference TO a pagan viewing other faiths.
Pagan, Gentile, Heathen. Gentile was applied to the other nations of the
earth as distinguished from the Jews.
Pagan was the name given to idolaters in the early Christian church, because the villagers,
being most remote from the centers of instruction,
remained for a long time unconverted. Heathen has the same origin.
Ok up to here re: the words origin, but....
is now more properly applied to rude and uncivilized idolaters,
while heathen embraces all who practice idolatry.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998
have no idols, Very few Icons even, back in the days of Egypt and Rome
perhaps this may have been so,
but it has not been so for thousands of years, why does the dictionary still say this ?
to mention even in the days of Rome and Egypt one did not "worship" the
the idol was only a focus point, no different than the Icons of Christianity,
or Islam or Jewish or any other faith you care to name. All have representatives of the faith.
But by this definition, anything not of those, is an idol and therefore false.
Again a Moral Judgment, not a definition.
out of date does a concept have to be, before its no longer associated
And rude and uncivilized ? I am quite civilized thank you very much !
am sure it's writers justified this by assuming
they where talking about some tucked away from the world tribe of natives of whatever race,
who practice their religion, never even considering the fact they just insulted and degraded,
a large segment of the population who proudly call themselves Pagan.
to mention those who are out on the edge of the world.
Now mind you up to here they are all right on origins but ... read on
: one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures
and material goods
: an irreligious or hedonistic person.
don't know about you, but with information like this, it's, no wonder people
we are a mass of hedonists, just out for kicks and carnal lusts.
had a gentleman and "I use the term loosely", come up to me and say to
" I read a Pagan is one who delights in sensual pleasures " after I happened to mention to him I was Pagan,
all he wanted to know was, was it true, with a very nasty gleam in his eye
and a big smile. No lie, fact, then had the nerve to ask me out on a date !
is what started the whole ball rolling to see what the dictionary ,
did in fact say of us. And no, I did not date him in case your wondering,
I like my dates to be respectful and intelligent !
Merriam-Webster. the most recent addition
and one of the most commonly used in the county due to its high availability
and the fact it's inexpensive.
1. One who is not a Christian, Muslim, or Jew, especially a worshiper of
a polytheistic religion.
2. One who has no religion.
3. A non-Christian.
4. A hedonist.
5. A Neo-Pagan.
1. Not Christian, Muslim, or Jewish.
2. Professing no religion; heathen.
Middle English, from Late Latin pgnus, from Latin,
country-dweller, civilian, from pgus, country, rural district.
almost factual, but again with the Hedonist and having no religion,
and defining a word based on what it is not, not what it is and relating a bad character judgment to it.
1: belonging to a religion which worships many gods, especially one
which existed before the main world religions:
2 :relating to religious beliefs that do not belong to any of the main religions of the world:
1: a person who has pagan beliefs
Cambridge Learner's Dictionary ,2003
follower of a less popular religion: somebody who does not follow one of
the worlds main religions,
especially somebody who is not a Christian, Muslim, or Jew,
and whose religion is regarded as questionable ( sometimes considered offensive )
2. polytheist or pantheist: a follower of an ancient polytheistic or pantheistic religion
3. heathen: somebody who has no religion ( disapproving )
of a less popular religion: believing in or relating to a religion
that is not one of the worlds main religions and is regarded as questionable
2. following polytheistic or pantheistic religion: believing in or relating to an ancient polytheistic or pantheistic religion
3. non religious: having no religion ( sometimes considered offensive )
[14th century. Via late Latin paganus from Latin, “villager, civilian,” from pagus “rural district” (source of English peasant).]
Latin word pagus , from which pagan is derived, originally meant “something
stuck in the ground as a landmark.”
It was extended metaphorically to “rural district, village,” and the noun paganus was derived from it,
denoting “country dweller, villager.” This shifted in meaning, first to “civilian,”
and then (based on the early Christian notion that all members of the Church were “soldiers” of Christ) to “heathen.”
Encarta® World English Dictionary [North American Edition] © & (P)2004
still making a call on what is classed as a "main" religion, leaving out
and calls pagan a questionable faith or having no faith.
Heathen is the current use word for almost any Asatru and proudly so,
so I feel sure in saying they would be offended by such a definition of themselves,
but it is a lot closer to the words origins and Original meanings.
then proceeds to fill in the blank for them with moralistic judgments.
Given this kind of information, is it any wonder a lot of the population still think we are Idol worshipers
who are out for fun and games, who have no faith and no religion ?
a 30 plus year pagan who has spent my life in service to the Mother and
the great works,
I am more than offended,
I am appalled.
have spent a great deal of my life in prayer and devotion to the
working at whatever would improve the life of another, my own life, or the common good. Lit countless candles,
said billions of Prayers, Held more rites trying to effect positive changes in the world than I can easily count.
spend most any day in my current life, seeking ways to improve myself,
so I am a more fit for the service to the Most High Mother of us all,
and yet, In nearly every dictionary currently in use, I am called a faithless,
hedonistic, Idol worshiper, whose into lust and material gain.
All the Seven deadly Sins rolled up in one package.
And I am none of those things.
do these " definitions " equate with Pagan ? Answer for the most part,
they don't !
Yet, until we as Pagans, get up and demand that all current day dictionaries define us in factual terms
and not some left over Moral judgments we will never convince people that we are not what the dictionary says we are,
just because it says it. Even if all the faiths who currently preach against us were suddenly silent,
the dictionary, the book we depend on for the semantics and meaning of our language,
and therefore our definition of the World, would still condemn us.
are taught to have faith in a dictionary, in that we must believe
that the words and definitions there in, are accurate
or what good is the book to us ? Never mind the fact anybody can see that a lot of these are judgments
on weather to be pagan is a good or bad thing, and not a definition.
That it is often a Moral judgment codified as a definition of a word. But it's never questioned.
Unless you are the one being derided.
We are, in almost any dictionary in the country.
have improved, make no mistake,
you go back further and it gets worse and even more moralistic.
A dictionaries job is to define a word, period.
to make a judgment call on whether it's right or wrong to be the thing
It's time we demand our rights as Pagans to be represented accurately in any and all such books,
so those out there who still don't know what we are, who choose to use the dictionary to get information,
get an accurate image.
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