Death experiences and Out of body experiences :)
do these things mean ?
how do they relate to the Spirit ?
events are really two separate issues .. but will deal with them both at
subject came up on a wonderful forum to which I belong, as I have experiences
now share that with you...as I did with them
experiences with these events, starting with the NDE,
there done that..3 times now..
it goes like this...
was electrocuted... by a live wire in a puddle of water under the sink,
across the room like a rag doll and my heart stopped cold
like 10 min , during which time,
my neighbor ,to whom I owe my life, was
doing CPR till paramedics got there
she saw me fly across the room...through my living room window...from her
she thought my husband had
me or something ! ) And came over to give him a piece of her
mind.. brave woman..
saved my life and my children's lives in the process, as they could have
come along right behind me
touched the same thing as I did.
I know ,only because, I was told later what occurred, as I was not there...
is where I was
a vast room filled with fog , you cant see the floor, the walls, no
sound, then a breeze comes up and clears the fog away..and you find the
is filled with people, in this case, people I didn't then know. There
12 of them, they called themselves the counsel. They are adepts who
lived and stay in the realm between life and death. I spent what seemed
like many days with them, talking and learning, the details are like
of fog to the waking mind, but I know what I learned
in there, waiting for those times when I am deep in meditation, then
I can recall the conversations. the
concept we call time stops. In the space of a heart beat between life
heart stopped again, during sex believe it or not...( and no I'm not going
into any titillating details... :)
my mate at that time was a paramedic,
even he had to call in the guys with the defibrillators to get things going
no damage to the heart thankfully...) This went on some 20 mins in real
this was reported to me, as I was not there....
is where I was
a mountain top looking out over a vast valley, with the wind blowing. I
can feel it now whipping my hair about,
smell the clean smell of it.. and hear the voices coming up to me, drifting
up from the valley floor, telling me things.
feel the presence of a warm body behind me, holding me, so I rested comfortably
while I heard the voices of the wind.
can still visit that mountain top :) Someday soon I will paint the image
arrest on an operating table...
one is a little more, common place really to start out
I stayed right here, watching and listening to all that occurred. I freaked
the doc out when I told him word for word
things he said while trying to make the body come back,he was normally
the soul of politeness, but knew death
always standing on the other side of any OR table and hated to lose.
He called me every name in the book, as in 'DON'T YOU
DARE DIE ON
ME YOU B**** )
it was so comforting to just float around watching all this go on.
had been ill for sooooooooo long, the body was just flat worn out and badly
gall bladder became gangrenous and tried to to take me out with it....)
next phase after he pulled me back into the body though is interesting,
as I spent the next three days in a coma,
my doctors to death in the process.
is what happened then....
spent what felt, like many mts, at what I can only call a university, there
were many others there, all of us training
learning, or just resting by the rivers edge in good company, people would
flicker in and out like bad TV reception
time to time, analogous to states of awake, or asleep I suppose. For me,
again the details of what happened in toto,
not available to the waking mind, but can be recalled under deep meditation.
one day I will have to work with someone to record all that )
as you can see, each state between life and death had the same effect,
a place where time as we know it,
and the powers that be take advantage of this state were the bodies limitations
are not an issue
and give you both teaching and healing .... as one ....
revisit the mountain top from time to time in meditation. I play a harp
for the speakers of the voices I heard
which I can recall doing and how to do .. from some other life,but in this
time frame , I don't know how,
my hands itch to play every time I see one..) but that's on the subject
.. Out of body experiences
this concept has to do with everything from deep meditation,
to rite and Ritual as in
down the Moon, to seeking the truth during Astral
much sought after thing , we do as easy as breathing , every night of our
trying to do it deliberately while more or less awake
so what it this OBE? What do I mean ?
be out of body means to send the soul if you will, the real self for a
of the spirit , out of the mundane body to elsewhere,
the elsewhere is, depends a great deal on what you believe
me that elsewhere can range from places I have built on the Astral plane..which
are mental creations that
taken on form, to the worlds of the Cabbala,
to the Moon paths of the Adepts. There are a million names
these places,but the point here is, there is another plane of "reality"
that one can only see,
out of the physical body , which is why it is so sought after as an experience
there are those who think this is complete balderdash !
thought the same thing in the time of Egypt ..
or Aristotle ..
that's ok, as those who don't believe that such a realm exists, will forever
they will never see it, belief is a powerful force
I delude myself with such quests for understanding ? Are my Death experiences
just a figment of a brain
of oxygen as some have said ? I cannot prove my beliefs, but neither can
anyone disprove them :)
and billions of others like me throughout time, who have seen the place
that is no place..
a time that is no time. And many of them didn't have to die to see it the
first time :)
who believe that the only reality we really have, is not the corporal body
in which we are born, but the one
stand in when we slip the bonds of Earth and stand as the spiritual beings
we really are :) I have seen the other
and been back to tell the tale... as I have now told you ... may the information
serve you on your quest for
the Glory of the divine
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